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Kathy Clay, born circa 1947, was a lesbian from Beverly who lived in Lynn and who went to the Light House and Fran’s Place. She attended St. Mary’s, Memorial Junior High, and Beverly High. She worked as an auto mechanic and house cleaner. Kathy Clay was interviewed by Patricia Gozemba on November 27, 1983, about lesbian life in the 1960s at the Light House and, more recently, at Fran’s Place. She speaks about being locked in Danvers State Mental Hospital at age 15 and a nurse who recognized she was lesbian and steered her towards Fran's on her release. She talks about violence and being kidnapped at the bar, police harassment, rape, family, leather, looking like a guy, butch-femme behavior, and relationships.
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He's the one that destroyed Fran's.
Mother protector? Forget it!
You want to be a guy? Okay, let's fight.
Finding each others.
I married a fag, just to prove I wasn't homosexual.
I was so in love with the nuns.
Vice would come in at least once every weekend.
I'd go in ladies' rooms.
She'd definitely be out of a job.
What if we march by my office?
They died from suicide or hormones.
Weekend lesbians.
They were both basically women's bars.
My drinking days are over.
People would stick with each other.
One mean mother cop beat me up.
Bouncer tried to rape me.
My mother knew all along.
Afraid my father was going to kill me.
Your husband can get you out.
Constantly arresting the gays.
Motorcycle group held us hostage.
I wanted the same freedoms men had.
Mother Brown became a woman.
I know a place.
Older generation at the bar.
I've heard two things about Fran.
Jan and the car thieves
Nobody knew about gays, fags, anything.
At that time they locked up homosexuals.
Buy more dresses!
Thank God. I'm not crazy.
Knocked me out cold.
GE does no longer discriminate.
She'd definitely be out of a job.
The whole preppy thing at Somewhere.
It's nothing like it was.
Your lover has to be in the closet.
All the guys had skirts on.
Two sides of the bar.
One mean mother cop beat me up.
Key figures that would come through.
Rape and the police.
It was a sickness and they locked you up.
I understand what you are going through.
They didn't feel that homosexuality was a sickness.
It was total bravery.
Drag queens at Dominic's.
I was born gay.
I know a place.
Femmes did not do it to butches.
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