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George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan are lifelong friends born in 1965 and grew up in the same working-class neighborhood of East Lynn. In 1983, George graduated from Lynn English and Deegan Lynn Technical High School. George reminisces about gay bars such as Josephs, Marco Marco, and the Gay Blade, and became the owner of the beloved 47 Central, which had several different incarnations between 1999 and 2013. Their joint interview was conducted in December 2023 at a 47 Central Reunion organized by George in Olde Thyme Italian restaurant. Both men discuss coming of age in an era of closeted homosexuality and violence directed at gay men. They talk about the AIDS crisis of the 1980s and their activism and fundraising to assist the gay community.

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My family was a bit homophobic back then.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

My mother welcomed my friend with HIV.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

I was playing around at 13.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We got into Fran's in High School.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Frans was between two biker bars. Copy

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We wore dresses on Halloween

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Tony decorated for Christmas in July.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Fran's was mostly a lesbian bar.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

I didn't look gay.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Tim's parents were a lot older than mine.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We were drunk and doing coke every day.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We became active in Strongest Link.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We were voted #1 gay bar in MA.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We got support from Boston bars.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We did fundraisers for the police.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Cops would beat you, gay or straight.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

You couldn't legally dance as a gay couple.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

There was no need for clubs anymore.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Benefits of marriage.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Hate toward the gay community is increasing.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

The transgender issue gets pushed too far.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

It's hard to call a person "they" and "them".

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

A man can't get pregnant.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

When you're born, there's two sexes.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Straights say "What are you people, nuts?"

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

She was an Archie Bunker then an Edith.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

My mother welcomed my friend with HIV.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

I never came out. I lived my life.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Frans was between two biker bars.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Back to the wall and eyes on the door.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Fran was welcoming to everyone.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

The Gay Blade was a men's bar.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Violence was everywhere, not just Fran's.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

There were a lot of drugs back then.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

People we knew were dying every day.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We became active in Strongest Link.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

I always wanted to own a bar.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

47 Central was friendly and safe.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We had a great relationship with the police.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

We did fundraisers for the police.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Most gay bars in Lynn didn't last.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

The Light House was a getaway for women.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Celebrating marriage equality in Provincetown.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Get rid of the word Queer.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

The transgender issue gets pushed too far.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

It's hard to call a person "they" and "them".

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

A man can't get pregnant.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

When you're born, there's two sexes.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

Different generations do things differently.

George Chakoutis and Tim Deegan

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